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0000099OpenMPTFeature Requestpublic2012-10-12 14:39
Reporterharbinger Assigned ToSaga Musix  
PrioritynormalSeverityfeatureReproducibilityN/A
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Platformx86OSWindowsOS VersionXP
Target VersionOpenMPT 1.20.04.00 (upgrade first)Fixed in VersionOpenMPT 1.20.04.00 (upgrade first) 
Summary0000099: Mousewheel number editing for more text boxes
Description

The mousewheel can be used to n-crement the values in the Crossfade dialog and the new Instrument Ramp field, which make it more convenient for mouse-only entry. I've also discovered the mousewheel will move sliders (and change their values) if you click on them first with either the left or middle mouse button, and that most comboboxes will scroll thru the list if you do the same (the noticeable exception being the Pattern Editor's instrument list, as mentioned in another bug report)
This is an excellent input method for mouse-mostly users, and i would like this input method installed into other numeric fields, specifically those in the Sample and Instrument pages. I don't think it would be a good idea to get rid of any spinner controls, however, in case someone's using an older mouse without a mousewheel (unless the two input methods interfere with each other ;).

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Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2012-09-22 22:39

administrator   ~0000892

Seems like I've found out what causes the different mousewheel behaviour between various controls... This will be unified in the next release.

Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2012-09-28 14:10

administrator   ~0000895

Last edited: 2012-09-28 14:23

Revision 1365 should improve this; All spin boxes that I could find should accept mouse wheel scrolling now.

harbinger

harbinger

2012-10-02 20:00

reporter   ~0000904

Excellent! One step closer to complete mouse-driven composition! The mousewheel does indeed work on all spinner text fields in every tab, and (almost) all drop down comboboxes when they have focus of course.
(If you're keeping track, the Instrument field on the Patterns Page and the Zoom dropdown stop moving after the first new list item. I also noticed this is true if the "little" sliders -- like the Res value in the Instruments page -- are mousewheeled when they gain focus.)

Furthermore, any slider element (like the Global Volume slider) if it has focus will move according to the mousewheel. If you mousewheel the entry in the spinner text box instead, the slider will also instantly update.

Anomaly, may need to be changed: when mousewheeling to an unused plugin slot in the Instruments page, the Autoselect Plugin feature kicks in. May want to opt out with mousewheel selection or filter the input if possible to only activate when empty slot is singularly chosen by a mouseclick.

Mousewheeling in dialogs:
Options dialog: works very well except for a couple of places. Mousewheeling the Category dropdown in the Keyboard tab indeed scrolls thru the list; then when tabbing into the Function list below it, the mousewheel will scroll the list, but won't move the highlight from the selected entry. Perhaps the mousewheel should instead scroll the selection thru the list of functions to assign hotkeys rather than scroll the view position. The same for the Miscellaneous Options list in the General tab.
I could make the same complaint about the Plugin Selection dialog (mousewheeling only scrolls the view not the selection), but here i don't know if it'll be helpful to modify the mousewheel behavior.
Mousewheeling in the Tree only moves the scroll view, but i don't think we need to scroll the selection of any element here, but OTOH i don't normally use this feature.]

While i don't really like the Transpose contextual menu compromise (i still think +/-4 and +/-7 are common enough to warrant their entry into the list), at least the Transpose dialog uses the mousewheel to scroll quickly thru the values to get what i need nearly as quickly as possible.

With this new capability, perhaps we can have a preference to opt out of spin arrows (those elements are simply not drawn).

Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2012-10-04 18:02

administrator   ~0000905

<blockquote>(If you're keeping track, the Instrument field on the Patterns Page and the Zoom dropdown stop moving after the first new list item. I also noticed this is true if the "little" sliders -- like the Res value in the Instruments page -- are mousewheeled when they gain focus.)</blockquote>

While there is definitely room for improvements, this is not related to the original issue.

<blockquote>Anomaly, may need to be changed: when mousewheeling to an unused plugin slot in the Instruments page, the Autoselect Plugin feature kicks in. May want to opt out with mousewheel selection or filter the input if possible to only activate when empty slot is singularly chosen by a mouseclick.</blockquote>

Cannot be fixed (at least for now), since the same code is always used when a new plugin slot is chosen, no matter if via mouse click, keyboard or wheel.

<blockquote>
While i don't really like the Transpose contextual menu compromise (i still think +/-4 and +/-7 are common enough to warrant their entry into the list), at least the Transpose dialog uses the mousewheel to scroll quickly thru the values to get what i need nearly as quickly as possible.</blockquote>
Also unrelated, please comment in the appropriate issue/thread. But as a quick answer: My argument remains valid: +4 or +7 might be common for <em>you</em> - I certainly rarely (if ever) use those amounts. You might want to assign a keyboard shortcut to the "Transpose Custom" command, so that you don't have to fight your way through the context menu - All you'd have to do is hitting the shortcut, entering the amount and pressing Enter then.

<blockquote>With this new capability, perhaps we can have a preference to opt out of spin arrows (those elements are simply not drawn). </blockquote>
And the advantage of that would be...?

harbinger

harbinger

2012-10-12 14:37

reporter   ~0000906

I know some of the issues were not related directly to the original FR, but i figured i'd put all the testing i did with the mousewheel in one thread, so you/we can refer to this later if needed.

Just mentioning the plus/minus of the mousewheel in the dialogs. My point was not to complain that i couldn't get what i wanted, but to remind users and future devs that the mousewheel in the Transpose dialog makes for a nice consolation prize, as it were. I didn't even pick up that the Transpose dialog had a keyboard shortcut. That's an even better option, considering.

I am always all for reducing unnecessary visual clutter for GUI that a user opts out (leftover trait from my Mac days). Wishful thinking on my part, i admit. I can see by your question, that as the programmer, testing for GUI options and deleting elements on a case-by-case basis better be worth the time it takes to assemble the methods....;D

Overall, good job. And feel free to consider this FR "resolved."

Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2012-10-12 14:39

administrator   ~0000907

If there's any more dodgyness showing up with the controls, let me know.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2011-04-01 18:12 harbinger New Issue
2012-09-22 22:39 Saga Musix Assigned To => Saga Musix
2012-09-22 22:39 Saga Musix Status new => assigned
2012-09-22 22:39 Saga Musix Note Added: 0000892
2012-09-22 22:39 Saga Musix Target Version => OpenMPT 1.20.04.00 (upgrade first)
2012-09-28 14:10 Saga Musix Note Added: 0000895
2012-09-28 14:10 Saga Musix Status assigned => feedback
2012-09-28 14:23 Saga Musix Note Edited: 0000895
2012-10-02 20:00 harbinger Note Added: 0000904
2012-10-02 20:00 harbinger Status feedback => assigned
2012-10-04 18:02 Saga Musix Note Added: 0000905
2012-10-04 18:02 Saga Musix Status assigned => feedback
2012-10-12 14:37 harbinger Note Added: 0000906
2012-10-12 14:37 harbinger Status feedback => assigned
2012-10-12 14:39 Saga Musix Note Added: 0000907
2012-10-12 14:39 Saga Musix Status assigned => resolved
2012-10-12 14:39 Saga Musix Resolution open => fixed
2012-10-12 14:39 Saga Musix Fixed in Version => OpenMPT 1.20.04.00 (upgrade first)