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|0000989||OpenMPT||User Interface||public||2017-07-16 10:53||2018-04-15 16:56|
|Product Version||OpenMPT 1.26.12.00 / libopenmpt 0.2-beta26 (upgrade first)|
|Target Version||OpenMPT 1.?? (long term goals)|
|Summary||0000989: Confused by "tuning properties" interface|
The interface of tuning properties is a bit confusing.
The multiply option is at the bottom of the form, suggesting that it multiplies only the current ratio. I would rather suggest a single button "Multiply all ratios" and then ask for the value in an inputbox.
It is not obvious that right-clicking on the tuning collection will be the way to add a new tuning. Why not add a button or a toolbar?
The "File path" and "Save" button are displayed even if there is no file and pressing the Save button displays "operation failed". Why not hide this button? And instead of File path, it could be replaced by "location" and one could display "Inside program settings" or "inside song file"
|Steps To Reproduce|
Go to the instruments tab, in Alternative Tuning, choose "Control tunings...". Select "Tune specific tunings". In group ratio, write 2. In group size write for example 12. Select "Group geometric" tuning type.
Here are some details on how to reproduce some of the issues mentionned in the description.
Maybe the idea is one letter for the note and 2 for the sharps/flats. But that does not allow for other notations with 2 characters for the note. That would require a max length of 4.
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|Has the bug occurred in previous versions?||yes|
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The tuning dialog is indeed far from optimal with respect to usability, also because only few people make use of this feature.
Sensible suggestion but probably difficult to implement. I'll see if anything can be done about it but don't get your hopes high.
Should be doable as we already allow this in other windows. I'll look into allowing this in the tuning editor as well.
As a general practice, you should currently keep your note names all upper-case, i.e. "DO" is okay, "Do" is not.
We are (and were for quite some time) aware of a ton of problems in the Tuning Dialog.
The confusion the Tuning Dialog will hopefully be slightly reduced in 1.27. In particular, there will only be the current "Tune-specific" tunings. "Built-in", "Local" and "Sandbox" will be completely gone. As will the possibility to export tuning collections (.tc files). Tunings will always reside in the module file, and exporting multiple ones will just write a set individual .tun files.
Additionally, support for importing Scale .scl files is fixed in 1.27, and support for exporting Scala .scl files is added. Both are already present in 1.27 test builds as of today.
The longer term plan is to completely re-do the whole Tuning Dialog. However, I am not sure if that will make it into 1.27. As I consider the current Tuning dialog basically a dead end, I'd rather invest time to redo it properly than fixing various usability problems (which unquestionably do exist) in the current one.
Note: This does not mean that we will not fix any bug in the current Tuning Dialog. In particular
really should not happen. I'll investigate probably tomorrow.
We should also consider the possibility to instantly apply the currently edited tuning to an instrument. The fact that a tuning cannot be previewed at all is one of the biggest deficiencies of the current dialog, I think. As a first step, the tuning should be applied instantly (for the case that the song is playing in the background), and as a second step, we might want to be able to preview notes like in the sample or instrument editor.
Another possibility I had in mind is not having a modal dialog at all and instead introducing another top level tab right beside Instruments. That would lend itself more naturally to realtime apply/preview.
As of r8635, it is possible to use the local decimal separator in the tuning dialog. Quite a few other things in the tuning dialog have already changed and are still in the process of being changed.
|2017-07-16 10:53||circular17||New Issue|
|2017-07-16 11:03||Saga Musix||Note Added: 0003109|
|2017-07-16 11:03||Saga Musix||Note Edited: 0003109||View Revisions|
|2017-07-16 15:46||Saga Musix||Note Added: 0003110|
|2017-07-16 18:02||manx||Note Added: 0003111|
|2017-07-16 18:03||manx||Note Edited: 0003111||View Revisions|
|2017-07-16 18:04||manx||Target Version||=> OpenMPT 1.?? (long term goals)|
|2017-07-17 15:48||Saga Musix||Note Added: 0003112|
|2017-07-17 15:58||manx||Note Added: 0003113|
|2017-07-25 15:46||Saga Musix||Note Added: 0003116|
|2018-04-15 16:56||manx||Status||new => acknowledged|