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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0000173 | OpenMPT | General | public | 2011-09-07 00:05 | 2015-10-20 14:57 |
| Reporter | jmichae3 | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | have not tried |
| Status | closed | Resolution | no change required | ||
| Platform | XP PRO SP3 32-BIT | OS | XP PRO SP3 32-BIT | OS Version | XP PRO SP3 |
| Product Version | OpenMPT 1.19.03.00 (upgrade first) | ||||
| Summary | 0000173: cannot seem to assign GM or midi channels to instruments once sample set | ||||
| Description | cannot seem to assign GM or midi channels to instruments. doesn't work, I get samples instead with IT and mptm. in short, impossible to use GM Midi instruments in sound card to play instruments. I seem to only get sampled instruments. there is NO SWITCH to switch between sampled instruments and MIDI, so it seems once openmpt imports a GM soundbank instrument sample, it sticks as a sample and nothing can switch over to MIDI! sound does not change with all the editing I do. | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | export s3m to MIDI, selecting appropriate drumkit entries and other sounds for each channel. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Has the bug occurred in previous versions? | |||||
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As far as I know OpenMPT cannot send MIDI commands to MIDI devices (only in VST instruments it's well supported) like does VMPK to a soundcard, it only can receive from external keyboard. I'm not the right person to tell if this works I'm not currently using/have external MIDI controllers. |
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cheapo MIDI keyboard can be had for $49 from radio shack, all that is left that is needed is usb-midi interface (you can get that from sweetwater.com), and so what's all the MIDI stuff in the instruments for, and the GM soundbanks if it doesn't support MIDI output? those soundbanks and stuff on the left are for assigning output if I am not mistaken. or for reference. yes? If they are for reference, having Yamaha XG would be nice too. that would be SO COOL if this fully supported MIDI. this way, I can write MIDI-only songs with it. or a mixture. If you have a sound card, you have a MIDI output device. Mine is currently mapped to the microsoft GM wavetable synth I think, so I can play .mid files. |
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the vst plugin mentioned in the manual called vst2mid by tobybear.de that gives midi output to vst no longer exists. |
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Yes, it exist:
Get from http://www.tobybear.de/p_midibag.html VST2MID is inside MidiBag. |
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MIDI Out over VST has many advantages such as per-song MIDI device settings and also all the code for sending MIDI messages is already there for VST plugins, so adding native support would introduce a lot of duplicate functionalty and would not be guaranteed to work - while VST2MID is. |
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I have a collection of songs to convert from sample-style to MIDI format. is this going to work, or are the samples going to take priority over the MIDI assignments like I have been seeing? because I should be hearing nothing, and I am hearing the same old sample and watching the sample cursor do its thing while the music plays. like I said, there is no MIDI/sample "switch". currently it all seems to work buy priority, and samples seem to get the priority over MIDI/VST. am I correct? |
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You first need to assign the VST2MID plugin to any mod instruments that you want to be played over MIDI out, and then you also mustn't forget to specify a MIDI channel the data should be sent over. A mod instrument can control a sample and a plugin at the same time. |
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openmpt upon open midi (I think that was it) when I specified instruments, imported the GM samples from some sort of soundbank. now I can't delete the sample. I am up a creek without a paddle. bad UI. since you say it can do both sample and MIDI at same time on same instrument, I find no way to:
enable/disable checkboxes should be above (outside the tab panels) the tabs and tab panels should be at the bottom somewhere of course... |
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now I can't delete the sample. You can... Select the appropriate sample from the sample editor and press Delete on your keyboard. bad UI Or OpenMPT is simply not the tool for your purposes - OpenMPT never was and will never be a MIDI editor. OpenMPT is a sample-based tracker with VST support. Samples as well as VST plugins can be bound to instruments, at the same time or individually - if you want to get rid of samples that are associated to an instrument you should enter "0" in the "Sample Map" on the right side of the instrument editor, right-click on that entry and select "Map all notes to sample 0" - that way, this instrument has no sample associations anymore and can be used for VST instruments solely. Usually this procedure is not required because you'd create an instrument from a VST plugin and not the other way around. |
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| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2011-09-07 00:05 | jmichae3 | New Issue | |
| 2011-09-07 00:57 | jmkz | Note Added: 0000405 | |
| 2011-09-07 03:31 | jmichae3 | Note Added: 0000407 | |
| 2011-09-07 03:35 | jmichae3 | Note Edited: 0000407 | |
| 2011-09-07 07:23 | jmichae3 | Note Added: 0000413 | |
| 2011-09-07 10:20 | jmkz | Note Added: 0000416 | |
| 2011-09-07 10:29 | Saga Musix | Note Added: 0000419 | |
| 2011-09-09 23:24 | jmichae3 | Note Added: 0000455 | |
| 2011-09-09 23:43 | Saga Musix | Note Added: 0000457 | |
| 2011-09-10 02:29 | jmichae3 | Note Added: 0000458 | |
| 2011-09-10 16:13 | Saga Musix | Note Added: 0000460 | |
| 2015-10-20 14:57 | Saga Musix | Status | new => closed |
| 2015-10-20 14:57 | Saga Musix | Resolution | open => no change required |