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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0000172OpenMPTGeneralpublic2012-05-05 15:56
Reporterjmichae3 Assigned ToSaga Musix  
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformXP Pro Sp3 32-bitOSXP Pro Sp3 32-bitOS VersionXP Pro Sp3
Product VersionOpenMPT 1.19.03.00 (upgrade first) 
Target VersionOpenMPT 1.20.01.00 (upgrade first)Fixed in VersionOpenMPT 1.20.01.00 (upgrade first) 
Summary0000172: help file missing!
Description

help file missing!
what use is this thing without a help file?
I don't know what to put in for the various tracker modes and panels and in patterns.

Steps To Reproduce

hit F1 once and got an error that it could not find help file.

TagsNo tags attached.
Has the bug occurred in previous versions?don't remember really using previous versions
Tested code revision (in case you know it)

Activities

jmkz

jmkz

2011-09-07 00:49

reporter   ~0000404

There is a Offline Help Manual -a very well manual- made by Harbinger. It has almost all you need to working with OpenMPT. Get it from here: http://forum.openmpt.org/index.php?topic=4387.0

jmichae3

jmichae3

2011-09-07 06:33

reporter   ~0000412

the .chm file manual is glaringly missing from OpenMPT. I am sure I and others are asking for feature requests for things that are already in openmpt just simply because there is no easy-to-access manual to refer to.

At the very minimum, you could add this pdf manual to the openmpt installer and make a start menu shortcut for it, a whopping 3 lines of installer code. please. for everybody. you will get a LOT more users, probably! make sure the manual has an index and TOC.

and since there is a manual, the link for it should be placed alongside the other download links for OpemMPT, not buried in a forum somewhere where people can't find it.

that manual needs to be updated, since VST2MID appears to no longer exist.
That means no more midi output. I am asking tobybear what happened to it.

Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2011-09-07 10:25

administrator   ~0000418

It is an old issue and yes, it is being worked on. But I won't include a 13mb heavy PDF file with a 2mb program, so if you want a proper help file to be made, you can help making it happen: http://forum.openmpt.org/index.php?topic=4525.0

jmichae3

jmichae3

2011-09-07 21:55

reporter   ~0000422

I was wrong about vst2mid, it is still there, but it is grouped within a group of a group of plugins called MIDIBag, and within that, MIDINet and within that group, VST2MID. it's buried. but this would be relevant information in the manual. I have never worked on a manual before other than an RTF file or a web page, so I don't know what goes into it.
http://www.tobybear.de/p_midibag.html

jmichae3

jmichae3

2011-09-07 22:00

reporter   ~0000423

just knowing that it is being worked on is nice to know.

jmichae3

jmichae3

2011-09-07 22:02

reporter   ~0000424

BTW, size makes no difference anymore that I know of. most everyone has broadband now. is this a problem worldwide?

Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2011-09-07 22:06

administrator   ~0000425

If bloat is no problem for you, that's ok, but I'm a huge fan of efficiency and size coding. If something can be done in 1 MB, why would you want to do it 10?

jmkz

jmkz

2011-09-07 23:15

reporter   ~0000426

Last edited: 2011-09-07 23:17

Another way is get optional download of OHM in installers page. Does not fix, but (maybe) will avoid some less clicks until CHM version of OHM is done.

Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2011-09-07 23:20

administrator   ~0000427

No, that doesn't make things better (== make the helpfile smaller and nicer)

harbinger

harbinger

2011-09-08 20:01

reporter   ~0000438

The 1.19 OHM is enough up-to-date for new users to jump in. There are only a few somewhat minor features added since then, and these will be written into the upcoming CHM, which should be less than a few months away.

I'm sure when it's complete and uploaded, Jojo will fix the Help menu in MPT to access it.

Until then, jmichae3, learn to use the tools you DO have at your disposal, and remember that all of us are contributing without compensation. This requires humility and patience from everyone involved -- developers and users alike.

jmichae3

jmichae3

2011-09-08 20:27

reporter   ~0000439

I write and maintain about 50+ small to medium utilities without compensation.
I want to put quality into my apps. they should be simple to use. if they are not simple to use due to the nature of the program, they should come with some sort of built-in help. at least that's my thinking.

I realize you are already working on help for this program. much appreciated. saw the post about the wiki pages.

it would be simple to make a download button for the OHM pdf file to the openmpt download page wouldn't it (so people could find it)? then you could call this bug closed. I am not just asking for myself - what about all the other befuddled folk who are downloading the program and have no help? please. at least until the help file is working. thanks.

Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2011-09-08 20:51

administrator   ~0000442

<blockquote>it would be simple to make a download button for the OHM pdf file to the openmpt download page wouldn't it </blockquote>
Please have a closer look at that page again.

<blockquote>I write and maintain about 50+ small to medium utilities without compensation.</blockquote>
It's great that you have so much spare time, but I hardly have enough time to bring OpenMPT into the shape I want it to see in. And it's not like a lot of people are helping, either. If Harbinger wasn't there, we probably wouldn't even have this big manual, which is now in the process of being transformed into a wiki (which will then in return be compiled into a PDF or CHM again).

Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2012-05-05 15:56

administrator   ~0000705

Help file is finally included in the download package again...

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2011-09-06 23:48 jmichae3 New Issue
2011-09-07 00:49 jmkz Note Added: 0000404
2011-09-07 06:33 jmichae3 Note Added: 0000412
2011-09-07 10:25 Saga Musix Note Added: 0000418
2011-09-07 21:55 jmichae3 Note Added: 0000422
2011-09-07 22:00 jmichae3 Note Added: 0000423
2011-09-07 22:02 jmichae3 Note Added: 0000424
2011-09-07 22:06 Saga Musix Note Added: 0000425
2011-09-07 23:15 jmkz Note Added: 0000426
2011-09-07 23:17 jmkz Note Edited: 0000426
2011-09-07 23:20 Saga Musix Note Added: 0000427
2011-09-08 20:01 harbinger Note Added: 0000438
2011-09-08 20:27 jmichae3 Note Added: 0000439
2011-09-08 20:51 Saga Musix Note Added: 0000442
2012-05-05 15:56 Saga Musix Note Added: 0000705
2012-05-05 15:56 Saga Musix Assigned To => Saga Musix
2012-05-05 15:56 Saga Musix Status new => resolved
2012-05-05 15:56 Saga Musix Resolution open => fixed
2012-05-05 15:56 Saga Musix Fixed in Version => OpenMPT 1.20.01.00 (upgrade first)
2012-05-05 15:56 Saga Musix Target Version => OpenMPT 1.20.01.00 (upgrade first)