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0000851OpenMPTFeature Requestpublic2016-08-07 13:18
ReporterMonsterovich Assigned To 
PrioritynoneSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status newResolutionopen 
Summary0000851: "Copy channel data" effect
Description

See: http://pastebin.com/8sV5Djmg

What we get:

  • Using more than one effect in channels
  • Convenient copying of channel data without doing extra CTRL+C, CTRL+V
Tagsmptm
Has the bug occurred in previous versions?
Tested code revision (in case you know it)

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Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2016-08-07 12:23

administrator   ~0002547

That is one counter-intuitive and non-user-friendly way of implementing multiple effect columns. Luckily there are better ways.

Monsterovich

Monsterovich

2016-08-07 12:26

reporter   ~0002548

Luckily there are better ways.

Tell me about these ways.

Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2016-08-07 12:28

administrator   ~0002549

Actually having more than one effect column (optimally a configurable amount) available.
However, I have outlined why this will not happen in the very near future: https://forum.openmpt.org/index.php?topic=5517.0
Your approach is affected by exactly the same issues outlined in that post.

Monsterovich

Monsterovich

2016-08-07 12:32

reporter   ~0002550

implementing multiple effect columns.

The main goal of this feature is reducing amount of time-wasting copy-pastes, multiple effect columns are just an addition.

Monsterovich

Monsterovich

2016-08-07 12:34

reporter   ~0002551

Actually having more than one effect column (optimally a configurable amount) available.
However, I have outlined why this will not happen in the very near future: https://forum.openmpt.org/index.php?topic=5517.0
Your approach is affected by exactly the same issues outlined in that post.

tl;dr
Please, tell me how to combine Fxx and Zxx effect in one channel.

Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2016-08-07 12:35

administrator   ~0002552

It leads to the same problems though, and in case it was not clear: I <strong>do not</strong> want to support the mess and legacy of having more than one effect column available (even if it's just a "byproduct" of your feature request) in the future without having clearly defined rules.

Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2016-08-07 12:36

administrator   ~0002553

Please, tell me how to combine Fxx and Zxx effect in one channel.

1) Volume column f/e + Zxx
2) Control the filter through an envelope

Monsterovich

Monsterovich

2016-08-07 12:46

reporter   ~0002554

Volume column f/e

What if I already use other volume commands?

Saga Musix

Saga Musix

2016-08-07 12:48

administrator   ~0002555

Then you have option 2 (you can always duplicate an instrument to have more filter variations available). Look, I know the current effect columns are very limited in some situations, but that doesn't change the fact that I will <strong>not</strong> accept half-baked replacements. I only accept proper solutions - and this is not one, because it comes with the same problems that that I would have to solve with a proper solution anyway.

Monsterovich

Monsterovich

2016-08-07 12:48

reporter   ~0002556

http://pastebin.com/0aXzjyQ1

Monsterovich

Monsterovich

2016-08-07 12:58

reporter   ~0002557

Also, look at what I said before.

The main goal of this feature is reducing the amount of time-wasting copy-pastes.

Monsterovich

Monsterovich

2016-08-07 13:12

reporter   ~0002558

you can always duplicate an instrument to have more filter variations available

Instrument filters and pattern effects are different. Copying instruments? Even my suggestion is less complicated.

Monsterovich

Monsterovich

2016-08-07 13:18

reporter   ~0002559

I only accept proper solutions

What does the proper solution look like?

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2016-08-07 12:21 Monsterovich New Issue
2016-08-07 12:21 Monsterovich Tag Attached: mptm
2016-08-07 12:23 Saga Musix Note Added: 0002547
2016-08-07 12:26 Monsterovich Note Added: 0002548
2016-08-07 12:28 Saga Musix Note Added: 0002549
2016-08-07 12:32 Monsterovich Note Added: 0002550
2016-08-07 12:34 Monsterovich Note Added: 0002551
2016-08-07 12:35 Saga Musix Note Added: 0002552
2016-08-07 12:35 Saga Musix Priority normal => none
2016-08-07 12:36 Saga Musix Note Added: 0002553
2016-08-07 12:46 Monsterovich Note Added: 0002554
2016-08-07 12:48 Saga Musix Note Added: 0002555
2016-08-07 12:48 Monsterovich Note Added: 0002556
2016-08-07 12:58 Monsterovich Note Added: 0002557
2016-08-07 13:12 Monsterovich Note Added: 0002558
2016-08-07 13:18 Monsterovich Note Added: 0002559